Mailbag - Jan. 31, 2002
In response to the letter from Bill Orton (Jan. 17) who states “No, I
don’t think the councilman needed to resign” I wonder what would
constitute sufficient grounds in his mind? Persons who seek election to
any office have the duty to educate themselves about ethical behavior in
that office.
Garofalo knew what “conflict of interest” meant although he continues
to project a beleaguered, “who, me?” image. This is nonsense.
Speaking of ethical education, just what was our well-paid, longtime
City Attorney Gail Hutton, doing during all these illegal votes? Why did
it take Mayor Debbie Cook, at that time a private citizen, to initiate
charges concerning his practice of continuous, illegal voting?
It is time for a new city attorney as well as a new council person.
MARGE ALLEN
Huntington Beach
Garofalo got what he deserved
Responding to Garofalo saying (“Exit, Dave left,” Jan. 17) he was
following the practice of his predecessor, Jack Kelly, if we can go back
and remember a little bit about ol’ Jack Kelly, he had to pay a fine for
illegal practices. And when he had to get out after two terms and he ran
again, his campaign slogan was “Jack is Back” and people were
distributing a cartoon of Jack’s back with his hand in the cookie jar. So
Garofalo, if he was following his practice -- it fits what he got.
In memory of Ruth Finley
Ruth Finley was one of the first persons who supported the concept of
a youth shelter in Huntington Beach, She, along with Ruth Bailey,
encouraged us by providing leadership and support. They were lovingly
referred to as the dynamic duo. When others said it couldn’t be done, she
would say, “Keep going, follow the vision, our city needs this project.”
Finley helped us to see beyond the frustrations of the everyday
obstacles to the larger picture. She took time from her busy life to
really listen. She would always offer positive insights into the workings
of city government. The strength of her character, the integrity of her
person was all reflected in her advice to help the shelter become a
reality.
CAROL KANODE
Huntington Beach
Ocean View School District trustee
GEORGE HUMPHREY
Huntington Beach
Winchell should return to council
What a stroke of good fortune for our city that Grace Winchell has
applied to serve as the interim city councilwoman.
Through her previous tenure as councilwoman and mayor, Grace has
earned our highest respect as a public servant. We hope that the city
council will appoint Grace Winchell to the vacated position on council.
FLOSSIE and PAUL HORGAN
Huntington Beach
Grace is the ideal person to serve the city for the remaining time of
Dave Garafalo’s term. She is not interested in a political future, she
has expertise, good solid judgment and will serve the city well.
I hope the City Council will appoint her and get on with the business
of the city
EILEEN MURPHY
Huntington Beach
A strong candidate is needed for council
I think we need some fresh perspectives and yet someone who is bright
and civically involved to fill the vacant seat on City Council. Planning
Commissioner Jill Hardy would be a great choice.
TIM GEDDES
Huntington Beach
City is wrong to block the Wal-Mart opening
I went to Wal-Mart in Huntington Beach yesterday. I’ve been so excited
to finally have a Wal-Mart close to me. Since it was not able to open I
went up Beach Boulevard and spent my money at the Wal-Mart in
Westminster.
After reading every article I can find in the newspapers, it’s clear
to me that the city officials who are refusing the occupancy permits are
still upset that Wal-Mart was voted in. Maybe Debbie Cook and Connie
Boardman own stock in Kmart and Target and don’t want Wal-Mart to get
anyone’s business.
It’s ludicrous that the handrail at the park should hinder the opening
of the store. The park is not part of the store. Why was Wal-Mart refused
the opportunity to post a bond, a normal procedure in most cities? Sounds
like sour grapes. This is all costing the city in the long run.
KAREN CHAMBERLIN
Huntington Beach
I feel extremely strongly and irritated that Wal-Mart--Mart has not
been allowed to open on time. I know, and the city knows, that these
small requirements will be done. It’s just a continual anti-business
attitude within the city officials of Huntington Beach.
Hopefully one day they’ll wake up and start getting some money so we
can get some city improvements, some street improvements and school
improvements -- so anyway open up the darn store -- please.
JIM NOWLING
Huntington Beach
I can’t believe that Wal-Mart was prevented from opening because they
didn’t install a railing at a park on the opposite end of the block.
If there were some threat to public safety concerning the new store I
could understand denying the permit. But a missing railing at a park
nowhere near the store? No wonder Huntington Center has been sitting
basically vacant for so many years. If this is the kind of nonsense that
companies have to deal with I will be surprised if any other major
business will think to locate here.
KEVIN WATANABE
Huntington Beach
Yes -- the city should let Wal-Mart open up with the pledge to
complete the park work.
I’d rather give my tax dollars to Huntington Beach rather than
Westminster.
KATHY THURSTON
Huntington Beach
Yes. Huntington Beach mayor and officials refusal to grant Wal-Mart a
certificate of occupancy to proceed with their scheduled opening is
typical of the “anti-business” attitude Huntington Beach has obtained
within the Southern California business community. Instead of helping
Wal-Mart meet their timing by allowing them to post a bond, assuring
completion of the few remaining items; which is typical in most cities
who value the tax revenues generated by new business, the mayor said
“Wal-Mart officials are trying to strong-arm the city.” How much better
it would have been had she said “Of course we will help, and we welcome
you and your tax dollars to our community.”
The next time our police and firemen ask for a raise and are told “We
can’t afford it because we don’t have the tax base of other cities” we
can think back to this anti-business attitude reflected by our elected
official and her staff, and understand exactly why business elects to
locate where they are wanted and city officials welcome them with open
arms.
As a retired executive of a large corporation, I can assure you
business looks very closely at city official sentiment before committing
large capital expenditures. Huntington Beach desperately needs a larger
tax base, but with prevailing attitudes, it will be very difficult to
obtain.
LYNDEL NEWSOM
Huntington Beach
I was sad that Wal-Mart did not go through with the opening. I was
very sad that they were held back at the 11th hour regarding some
electrical circuits and a handrail that are on a truck on the way here.
For all the good that Wal-Mart does I am proud to be a very minor
stockholder. I live very nearby and look forward to going to this store.
I hope the railing gets installed in Lambert Park, which was named after
a mayor from 1962 to 1964 in Huntington Beach. The city needs the taxes,
the money that this fabulous store will give to the city will go a far
ways to help the infrastructure and other needs. I just feel it was
unconscionable to withhold the certificate of occupancy at the 11th hour.
LINDA FEFFERHuntington Beach
I was responding to the question about Wal-Mart and the delay that the
City Council has placed on it. I think it’s absolutely tragic. I think
our City Council is a regressive city council. The schools need the
money, we need the sales tax money from this Wal-Mart -- it’s almost
anti-business. I’m thinking about the poor people that are not getting
paid for these days we’re delaying this thing now when a bond could have
been issued to open that store -- so now they’re antilabor.
As far as those Crest View owners over there, its just so selfish its
unbelievable. They don’t think anything a about the community in which
they live. It’s no wonder people are dragging their feet no one is going
to come in and develop Huntington center when they have to fight them
tooth and nail everyday. I think its just tragic they didn’t get this
Wal-Mart opened on the right day.
JON PHILLIPS
Huntington Beach
Instead of hassling Wal-Mart, why don’t you try to work with them, to
get the store open as soon as possible? Some of you may still be angry
that Wal-Mart is coming to town. Maybe Wal-Mart didn’t offer any real
estate deals or side contracts. Get over it. Each day the store’s opening
is delayed, the City of Huntington Beach loses major tax revenue.
Wal-Mart is now the world’s largest corporation. Do you think they
haven’t run into obstacles opening new stores at other places? Do you
city officials think you can gain anything by having an adversarial
relationship with Wal-Mart?
B.J. HADLER
Huntington Beach
I went to Wal-Mart on Saturday to check out their new store. Imagine
my surprise when the store was not open. There was a crowd of at least
100 people waiting to go in the door. An employee said the store might
open at 1:00 p.m. Wal-Mart was waiting for word that the city had
inspected the railing at Lambert Park and then they could open. Meanwhile
there was a steady stream of cars driving into the parking lot and a
steady stream of cars leaving the parking lot. Of course the store did
not open, and as of Sunday, it still had not opened. It is very hard for
me to believe that the City of Huntington Beach appears to be so
vindictive that it could not accept a bond to perform from Wal-Mart,
which is an acceptable way to do business. After all who is in charge,
the City Council or a few angry citizens?. It is very plain to see that
the city needs money, yet they didn’t seem to need five days of sales tax
revenue from Wal-Mart. It is my hope that this week when a new City
Council member is picked that it is someone who has the interests of the
city at heart. It is certainly not a requirement that they be a member of
Amigos de Bolsa Chica. In addition, I would like to see a status report
each week in this newspaper informing the residents of Huntington Beach
what is happening with the Huntington Beach Mall (which would also
benefit the city’s coffers). Isn’t anyone else tired of driving on
potholed streets? Hey, how about that new $5.30 sewer fee on the water
bill?
LEE MILLIGAN
Huntington Beach
Wal-Mart has worked for over two years to put a store in Huntington
Beach. They have passed every city review and inspection; built a store,
stocked it, and hired hundreds of people to work there. But they cannot
open because a railing has not been delivered and installed in a park.
No, a completion bond is not good enough, “rules are rules, you know” is
the City response.
The city is facing huge infrastructure problems, utility bill rebates,
property tax assessment rebates, and budget cutting. We are actively
looking for relief with new business development opportunities. This
Wal-Mart example sends a clear message to every business looking to come
to Huntington Beach. The Huntington Beach Mall has been vacant for years.
Please help me understand what developer would want to work with the
unreasonable and costly city interpretations that seem to lack even the
most common of sense.
Most likely they would pass and go where they have a reasonable chance
to partner for success.
SKIP FINESTONE
Huntington Beach
They should be allowed to open it was blackmail in the first place
that they had to do that park. There is real animosity there.
VIVIAN BORNSHuntington Beach
I do believe Wal-Mart should be allowed to open I think it’s
ridiculous to chase business out of the city. We need the income, we need
the revenue, this idea of being against, against, against is ridiculous.
ERNEST BARTOLO
Huntington Beach
Wal-Mart shouldn’t be allowed to open
I don’t think the Wal-Mart--Mart ought be able to open at all. Those
are my feelings its been that way since the beginning. They’ve been
pushing this city since they got their foot in the door. They don’t run
this city good ol’ Debbie Cook does.
JEANETTE LOTA
Huntington Beach
I say good for the city -- Wal-Mart should not control us we should
control Wal-Mart.
JEANNETTE MUELLER
Huntington Beach
No, Wal-Mart should not be allowed to open until they meet all the
requirements.
GARY MATTA
Huntington Beach
Yay for the city and Connie Boardman. Any one who reads the papers
knows how many lawsuits have been filed against Wal-Mart. Now they won’t
say which sweat shops they use to manufacture their labels.
Trusting them is like trusting the big bad wolf.
ABIGAIL FRANCIS
Huntington Beach
Somehow or other you people in Huntington Beach think you are going to
enjoy huge tax income from the new monstrosity you have built on Talbert
Avenue. This is utter stupidity. Not only is it not going to “save the
kids” but it is going to cost you in the long run.
I am not in the Huntington Beach City School District but I am in the
Huntington Beach Union High School District. I have always been a strong
supporter of bonds for the high schools -- and unlike most Huntington
Beach/Fountain Valley residents, I vote. I have not missed an election
since I turned 21 (this was before the amendment to lower the voting
age), and I will not fail to vote in any upcoming elections either.
But I will no longer vote yes on bond issues for the benefit of the
schools -- I will note no loud and clear. Imposing something the
neighbors do not want built, is the straw that broke the camel’s back. I
will not shop in Huntington Beach under any circumstances. I am in the
market for a new automobile -- I will drive miles, if I have to to buy it
outside this city.
School board members have absolutely no concern for the children --
all they want is the dollar. Well you won’t get mine, nor will you get
any from anyone I know or talk to. The idea that Wal-Mart is going to
generate more income than at present is also false, because it assumes
that this money-grubbing corporation is not going to drive other business
out.
That is ludicrous.
That’s what you folks get, and that’s what you deserve for listening
to the majority of the Huntington Beach City Council. ALEX BURCKIN
Fountain Valley
As anxious as I am to have this Wal-Mart open so I can spend my money
in Huntington Beach instead of the city up Beach Boulevard, I feel our
city was right in not clearing the slate for the scheduled opening
yesterday. (And yes, I was there to start shopping.)
Just as a civilian is not allowed to enter his/her new home until it
passes inspection, the same rules must apply for a business. I feel our
city had the best interests and safety of its’ citizens in mind . . . a
contract is a contract.
ELLEN KNUFF
Huntington Beach
Good riddance to the invocation
One must really admire Huntington Beach Mayor Debbie Cook’s stand on
eliminating the invocation at the of beginning of Huntington Beach
council meetings. Such a stand shows rare courage not found in today’s
politicians, most of whom today claim to walk arm in arm with God -- the
Christian God, of course, since the vast majority of voters are of the
Christian faith.
Surely, once more Christians will insist that another “religious
freedom” has been taken away from them. They always believe that since
they are the vast majority in our nation they should have the “freedom”
to force their particular brand of religion on everyone else.
It’s obvious that Mayor Cook knows what true religious freedom is, you
know, that religious freedom guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution: to
believe in whatever faith makes one happy, or not to believe at all.
Cook’s courageous stand will put her in league with the devil in the
minds of many Christians, but for those who really understand the unique
and precious right of true religious freedom that we have in our nation,
one can only applaud Cook’s actions.
JAMES R. GALLAGHER
Huntington Beach
How about Davis for Council.
I’m very much in favor of Ron Davis filling the empty council seat.
NORA COSTA
Huntington Beach
All the latest on Orange County from Orange County.
Get our free TimesOC newsletter.
You may occasionally receive promotional content from the Daily Pilot.